To Dale Jag; have you got a solar panel or wind mill on your vehicle, I think not so we need the refineries, wake up. As a matter of fact, I do have solar panels on my vehicle. AND on the house, So as you said: "You think not" Maybe you should start thinking. As of now, yes we need refineries but we will need less in the future. This is 1 reason why they are not making more.